Course Lab
Interview with Dr. John Austin
Behavioral Scientist & Founder, Reaching Results
Interview Summary
Dr. John Austin is a behavioral scientist with a PhD from Florida State University and 15 years of experience as a university professor. His Behavioral Safety Leadership Academy is a three-month, $2,000 cohort-based course that teaches operations leaders in manufacturing and construction to use behavioral science to reduce workplace injuries. His approach to course design is shaped by the science he teaches: clear expectations, meaningful consequences, simplified content, and student choice — all grounded in published research showing that sites whose leaders completed his program reduced injuries at twice the rate of matched comparison sites over five years.
From Academic Papers to Real-World Impact
John spent 15 years as a university professor, publishing roughly 100 scientific papers that, as he puts it, no one will ever read because they are written in "academicese." The desire for broader reach drove him to online teaching, first through hybrid courses at the university around 2008-2010, and eventually through his own independent courses. His motivation is deeply personal: growing up as the first person in his family to attend college, he watched people he loved work in manual labor jobs for companies that treated them poorly and environments where they got hurt. When he discovered that there is a science around creating more effective work environments, he committed his career to it.
After I had my PhD, you graduate and you think you know everything. And then you realize you know nothing because the world is so vast when it comes to this topic.
The Green Sheet: Behavioral Consequences in Course Design
John's most distinctive course design technique is what he calls the green sheet — an individualized feedback document that lists each student's name alongside the assignments they completed or did not complete. When he tested group feedback versus individualized feedback, most cohorts said the individualized version was more effective — but also said they would prefer the group version because it feels better. John now gives individualized feedback by default because it serves students better. The green sheet creates meaningful social accountability, especially in corporate cohorts where the results may be shared with direct supervisors. But John is careful: in the wrong environment, sharing with supervisors can create a highly aversive dynamic. He gauges each context through careful observation and conversations before deciding how to deploy it.
Most groups will say the individualized feedback is more effective. But they'll also say they would choose the group feedback. Because it feels better.
Selling to Organizations: One Decision for Fifteen Students
John initially hoped individuals would discover his course and sign up independently. That model produced modest results. The real breakthrough came through selling cohorts directly to organizations — connecting with executives and senior leaders who need their teams trained in behavioral safety. From a sales perspective, it is one conversation for a larger price tag rather than many conversations for smaller ones. In a B2B context, this also creates better outcomes: when an entire site goes through the program, from senior leaders to frontline supervisors, the collective behavior change compounds. His published research demonstrated that manufacturing sites where leaders completed the course reduced injuries at twice the rate of matched comparison sites over a five-year period.
We showed over a five year period that the sites that took the course, from their senior leaders to their frontline supervisors, reduced their injuries twice as much as the other sites that were matched by size and product mix.
Addition by Subtraction: Simplifying for Implementation
When asked how his course has evolved, John's answer surprised: it got simpler, not more complex. He shortened videos, reduced the number of assignments, and made each one take minutes rather than hours. The logic is behavioral: the shorter the gap between starting a task and finishing it, the easier it is for students to get to implementation — which is the entire point. He also builds choice throughout: students choose their project topic, how they address it, who they focus on, and how long their intervention runs. Research from a former student found that giving people choice increases engagement by 20 percent. John builds choice in all over the place, operating within clear boundaries but allowing students to create their own experience.
Just telling people the right thing to do or writing it down is not going to produce the behavior change reliably. If you can add in positive consequences for doing the right thing, you get a completely different result.
Dr.'s Action Steps
Dr. recommends these 3 steps to improve your course planning:
Create transparent accountability for course completion
Rather than hoping students will complete assignments, make completion visible. Share individualized progress feedback with the cohort or, in B2B contexts, with supervisors. Test which format drives the best results in your specific context.
Simplify content and shorten assignments over time
Resist the urge to add more material. Instead, shorten videos, reduce assignment length, and make each task completable in minutes. The shorter the gap from starting to finishing, the higher the completion rate and the faster students get to implementation.
Build meaningful choice into course projects
Let students choose their project topic, their approach, and their focus area. Research shows choice increases engagement by 20 percent. Set clear boundaries for the playing field, but let students create their own path within it.
About Dr. John Austin
Behavioral Scientist & Founder, Reaching Results
Dr. John Austin is a behavioral scientist with a PhD from Florida State University and over 25 years of experience in the field. He spent 15 years as a university professor before moving to independent course creation. His Behavioral Safety Leadership Academy teaches operations leaders in manufacturing and construction environments to apply behavioral science for safer workplaces. His published research demonstrates measurable injury reductions in organizations that complete his program.
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