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    A Certification Course That Coaches Coaches with Dr. Barbara Birsinger

    Dr. Barbara Birsinger built a 12-year certification program teaching practitioners her Behavior Decoding Method — and discovered that peer practice sessions outside class became the secret to deep engagement

    Guest: Dr. Barbara BirsingerUpdated April 2026

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    Interview with Dr. Barbara Birsinger

    Creator of the Behavior Decoding Method; CEO, Energetics of Eating

    Interview Summary

    Dr. Barbara Birsinger has spent over three decades studying disordered eating and food-related behaviors. She created the Behavior Decoding Method — a set of elicitation questions that help clients discover for themselves what needs their food and body behaviors are trying to meet. Rather than teach individuals one by one, she built a professional certification course for licensed health professionals and later cloned it for coaches. The episode reveals how peer practice sessions, live video demonstrations, and a focus on practitioner markets created a sustainable 12-year course business.

    A Code Hidden in Plain Sight

    Dr. Birsinger's journey began with her own struggles with food and body issues decades ago. As a practicing nutritionist with a doctorate in spiritual healing and energy medicine, she started getting dramatic results with clients — people stopping intractable eating disorder behaviors in a matter of weeks, sometimes within a single week. She realized she could not serve everyone herself and needed to teach other practitioners. The breakthrough came at a large international conference for eating disorder professionals in 2009. She spoke about her research and returned the next year with something more persuasive: video demonstrations. She filmed three clients going through the elicitation process, stopping the video at key moments to explain what was happening. "The audience got to see the aha moments, the neural resets, the changes that were going through the clients without me saying anything other than just asking them questions," she recalls. Half the audience — about 50 people — came to the stage afterward and asked how to get more. She threw out a price, 15 people signed up on the spot, and she built the course in six weeks.

    Half of them came up to the stage and said, how do we get more of this? Somebody said, can you do a webinar? I said sure. They asked how much, and I threw out a number that nobody was charging. And they said, okay, where do we sign up?

    The Decoding Process: Self-Discovery, Not Prescription

    The Behavior Decoding Method works through elicitation rather than instruction. For food cravings, the process starts with the foods themselves — what does the client love about them? Soft and warm on the inside, crunchy on the outside. A lot of sweet things might indicate missing sweetness in life. The coach does not interpret during the session; they simply ask the questions. Then comes the trigger: what feeling came just before the reach for food? When the client loads up that feeling in their body, they can access a deeper question — what do I really need right now? The brain begins configuring the relationship between the positive feeling the client is after and the unmet need driving the behavior. The client then generates their own alternatives — not distractions like "take a warm bath" or "go for a walk," but genuinely sustaining solutions that are uniquely their own. "It's not a distraction from the behavior," Birsinger says. "It's really getting down into what's really happening for them at that time."

    They come up with ways that are uniquely their own. Not something like 'have you tried taking a warm bath.' Those are activities, but they're not necessarily sustaining. It's really getting down into what's really happening for them.

    Peer Practice Became the Secret Ingredient

    Birsinger runs weekly Q&A, consultation, and case study practice sessions with her students. During these sessions, students pair up briefly to practice the decoding process on each other — one as the client, one as the coach. What surprised her was what happened next: students started meeting on their own outside of class, behind her back. "I was like, what — you guys have been meeting this whole time?" They were having fun with it, discovering issues they did not even know they had, and coming back with results. In her doctoral dissertation work with 100 women, she used a buddy system — each participant had an accountability partner every week. She credits that structure with much of the program's success. For the beta coach program during the pandemic, she also invited students to find and report errors in course materials she was uploading quickly. Students competed with each other to catch mistakes, which deepened their engagement with the content while helping Birsinger polish the materials in real time.

    They started meeting with each other outside of class, behind my back. I didn't even know about it. They would be the client, the other one would be the coach, and they'd just have so much fun with it.

    A Practitioner-First Business Model

    Birsinger made a deliberate decision to serve practitioners rather than individuals. The course is a certification program, which gives practitioners continuing education hours and a credential that differentiates them in their field. In the debrief, Abe highlights two takeaways. First, Birsinger's approach is fundamentally not content-centric. It is a process of elicitation and self-discovery — asking the right questions rather than delivering frameworks. This is a reminder that "teaching" does not always mean "delivering content." Second, her tight focus on practitioners rather than consumers is likely what made the business sustainable for 12 years. She later cloned the professional program for coaches, removing clinical language and adapting it for more common food and body struggles — "the more garden variety version," as she puts it. She estimates that 70% of the population has some form of these issues, even if they never seek treatment for an eating disorder.

    70% of the population has some of these issues, more than one. Even if a coach has a client coming in for business or executive coaching, they very well may likely have some of these behaviors, and you just don't know about it.

    Dr.'s Action Steps

    Dr. recommends these 3 steps to improve your course planning:

    1

    Use live demonstrations to sell a process-based course

    Birsinger won her first 15 students by showing video of real client sessions at a conference. If your course teaches a method or process, create short demonstration videos that let prospects see the transformation in action rather than just hear about it.

    2

    Build peer practice into the course structure

    Birsinger's students spontaneously started practicing on each other between sessions. Design this into your course deliberately: pair students as practice partners with a simple protocol. The accountability and camaraderie will boost completion and deepen learning.

    3

    Consider serving practitioners first, then consumers

    By certifying practitioners rather than serving individuals, Birsinger scaled her impact exponentially. If you have a method that works, ask whether the faster path to scale is teaching other professionals to use it rather than applying it yourself one client at a time.

    About Dr. Barbara Birsinger

    Creator of the Behavior Decoding Method; CEO, Energetics of Eating

    Dr. Barbara Birsinger is the creator of the Behavior Decoding Method, a patented elicitation process for revealing the deeper meaning behind food and body behaviors. She holds a doctorate in spiritual healing and energy medicine and has spent over three decades researching, innovating, and teaching her system. She runs professional certification courses for licensed health professionals and coaches, and is developing a mobile app to connect trained practitioners with the public. She has spoken at international eating disorder conferences and was featured in an interview with Jack Canfield.

    30+ Years Researching Food and Body Behaviors
    U.S. Patent Pending for Mobile App
    12-Year Professional Certification Course

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